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[ladyjanelly]

Okay, so I'm having a difficulty writing fanfic and I was wondering if anybody else has run across it or had any advice.

The boys won't fuck.  

No really. I don't mean I'm having trouble writing a sex scene.  I'm having trouble building any UST at all, much relieving it.  I'm doing a mini-nanowrimo thing, where I just write a minimum of 10 mins a day.  I've made amazing progress.  I finished the BDS/SPN crossover (vaguely implied maybe-sex that I don't even believe).  I worked on the SPN AU seperated-young hooker!fic (and Dean won't fuck).  I started a SPN AU seperated-young blind-vulnerable-tragic!Sam fic (And Sam's in love with Jess and won't fuck).  I tried to plan out the third SeanPatrickFlanery/NormanReedus PWPish piece, and I'm not writing it because you can't have a PWP without sex.

I know I've never been the porniest writer out there,  and I still loves me some slash, but I'm stuck in gen-fic mode and don't know how to get out of it. 

Comments

[rayvenblackwood.livejournal.com]

Read porn.
I know this sounds like the most obvious answer ever, but bear with me.
Read the really good stuff, so you have some kind of goal. like, "I wanna write porn like ______!"
Read the bad stuff, so you know exactly what not to do. It's also an ego-boost, 'cause you /know/ you can write better than that. I suggest a trip to adultfanfiction.net for that.
Read the mediocre stuff, so you can find what works and what doesn't.
And then threaten to never write porn again, and I betcha the boys'll whip into shape

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Heh.
If anything I have the opposite problem. I think maybe I read too much porn. Lately it's been almost everything that pops up on the spnnewsletter thingy every day. And yeah, some aff.net too.

I almost thought about not letting myself read porn at all for a week or so, to build up some internal tension, but I'm following some really great WIPs and I'm afraid I might lose them if I don't read them as they come out.

I think it's more a problem of finding the switch that turns on the heat.

But yeah, heh, maybe threatening to never write porn again might work, because I seem to have a problem keeping most of my writing promises. :)

Thanks, lady.

[gal-montag.livejournal.com]

The only advise I have is that you can't force it. Which probably doesn't help in the slightest.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Probably...I just sorta miss that element in my fic.

Maybe it's just the Winchester boys that don't wanna hump.

It's been suggested that I should vow to never write porn again--maybe that'd make it forbidden and exciting again somehow.

[gal-montag.livejournal.com]

That could be, it's like when someone says don't think about purple elephants and suddenly that's the only thing you can think about.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Must concentrate on hooker!sam not having sex with Dean. Not having sex. Not having sex.

That really should be harder than it is.

[yonihamagid.livejournal.com]

Having written neither porn nor fan fic of any sort, I have no idea how helpful this is, but my first thought was to sit down and just write some flat out porn. No character development, no slash, just flat out fuck like bunnies porn. Get the mechanics of writing sex down again. Perhaps then start moving backward to motivations and plot, again without using established characters, and see how that works. Once you're back in the swing of writing porn, try doing it with the boys you know and love.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Maybe It's just been too long since I porned? Hrm. Might try your idea. Even if I don't turn out a finished fic with any of it.

I know!

[cattraine.livejournal.com]

I am trying to get the last bit of wingfic finished and they just WON"T get it on. All they want to do is either talk or fight! What is with these guys!

Re: I know!

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

I would wonder if maybe I wasn't as into the Winchest as I thought I was, except none of my boys are in the mood right now either. I can't even get the Sean&Norman from my little porn-verse in bed together.

[taniapretender.livejournal.com]

Hee ! Porn !

I'll give a try at counceling. Tell me if I got it wrong, but your actual problem is that you can't start any porn inside a gen fic, right? You kinda have problem introducing the scene ?

Ok, so, I guess you do write kissing scene, don't you ? Well it's as simple as that, it starts with a kiss, and leads to something more.

Or, you can always try the frontal approach : one of them comes in the room, and the other is waiting for him/her.

Also, you have to know your way through the angst. I mean porn is either there to build the angst ( which leads to angsty!porn) and then introduce the porn during a fight. ( kinda like in Route 666, but better. And i do mean, MUCH better. ). If it is about releaving the tension between two angsty scenes, then it becomes shmoop!porn or healing!porn, and it helps both the boys and us,readers.

And if you need a beta-reader, all you need to do is ask.

btw, where's your SPN/DA crossover going? I'd love to see what'll happen to ben ! I love ben !

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Part of the problem is just getting the boys interested. I'm having a problem even doing an off-screen or fade-to-black sorta thing.

I'm all "Hey! Guys! Be more gay!" and they're like "Whuh? Now? Him?"

I'm having a hard time introducing the hard time, as it were. There's chemistry, but it's all platonic. There's no hunger, no fire.

I blame the SPN fandom for making it okay to write genfic. Now I'm stuck.

The ben-fic is almost done (this story of the universe at least). I've got it written and working on typing it up and getting the first round of self-edits done.

May take you up on that beta-reader offer, thanks.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Interested in beta-ing the latest of the SPN/DA thing? Shoot me your e-mail again and I'll send it over. It's all typed and I've printed it and read through for errors and the husband has read it through for errors, so it should be ready for you. 4860 words. Holy crap.

[myownghost.livejournal.com]

that's interesting to me. i just finished my nano-novel, which i had intended to have several highly salacious f-locked "extra chapters," but i couldn't do it. there was a touch of frottage and lots of kissing, but the hot stuff was not happening (despite the presence of alex krycek in disguise). i decided it was ok, in this context. but if i were trying to write slash fanfic, i'd have found this very frustrating.

i hope you get your groove back.

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Thanks. I'm trying. Or trying to not-try, as some of the advice has been. I appreciate the empathy. :)

I think I'd even be okay with all the sex happening off-screen if I could get some heat and hunger on-screen. Y'know?

[myownghost.livejournal.com]

yeah, i know. heat & hunger, yum!

those are trent reznor's hands, aren't they? that is the hottest picture, if i'm right about it. :)

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Why yes, those are Trent's hands. :)

[hrh-anm.livejournal.com]

I guess I'm the odd man out here for two reasons. First because I don't write porn, I just read it and second because I LOVE that your guys don't fuck. I mean, I expect that eventuality they will but I have no problem with the fact that they don't. It seems very sexy and *searching brain for good word*.... I don't know....it is just much sexier and the story line becomes the important part of their relationship. OK, I know I am no help but I just wanted to say that I don't mind the fact that they don't fuck. You are a fantastic writer!

[ladyjanelly.livejournal.com]

Thanks hon. I appreciate the vote of confidence. Your support of my gen-fic has been important to me, even as far back as the BDS fic Mercy. Thanks for reminding me that there are other types of 'close' besides sex, and that those relationships can be as exciting and interesting as the fucking ones.